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Welcome to the Ex V Planis circle. Join your host, Flood, for an ongoing conversation with other aliens wearing human suits, and those who see past the veil. This is a chronicle of an ever-evolving journey into the unknown. While we do take some Detours, the core of the journey is the Case Files; which chronicle field work and personal experiences from Flood and their ever-growing extended family of paranormal investigators, mediums, UFO hunters, cryptozooligists, scientists, psychologists, artists, musicians, and authors.
Episodes

Friday May 17, 2024
Friday May 17, 2024
Join Flood and up-and-coming (also returning) cohost Walker for a brief touch into the Uinta phenomena and how it's shaping our journey. Also, a lot of random hypothesizing.
EX V PLANIS
https://foldsandfloods.bandcamp.com
UFO VALLEY CAMPGROUND
https://www.ufovalleycampground.com/
SMALL TOWN MONSTERS/Monsterfest 2!

Wednesday May 01, 2024
S04E04 The Uinta Basin, Pt 4: The Aftermath, and the Path Forward
Wednesday May 01, 2024
Wednesday May 01, 2024
Join Flood and returning guests Jill Beitz and Walker Roberts, as well as our very special guest and commentator for this roundup, Dr. Robert Wenzel Gross for a discussion about the aftermath of our Uinta experience. If you pay close attention, you'll pick up on some bread crumbs about where all of this is going. For us, at least.
EX V PLANIS
https://foldsandfloods.bandcamp.com
COLLABORATION WITH LUXA STRATA
https://soundcloud.com/j-street-390/eyes-of-your-eyes
UFO VALLEY CAMPGROUND
https://www.ufovalleycampground.com/
DR ROBERT W GROSS
Dr. Bob Wenzel Gross is an accomplished artist who chose music as his preferred medium of expression. In 1975, he enrolled at The Pennsylvania State University to study filmmaking. Bob also worked on a classified cross-disciplinary research project at the Penn State Center for Acoustics. In 1984, Bob earned a Doctor of Education Degree from Penn State. At Penn State, he studied music, filmmaking, acoustics, aesthetics, and research design, among other subjects. Penn State’s Graduate School awarding his doctoral dissertation an excellent rating for advanced research.
In 1985, Dr. Gross wrote a children’s musical play. The play incorporated several contemporary popular topics: UFOs, extraterrestrial intelligence, spaceships, and outer space. To learn more about the UFO/UAP phenomenon, Dr. Gross joined a nonprofit scientific research organization and clearinghouse for UFO sightings in Pennsylvania.
During 1989, Dr. Gross observed a UAP up close. Throughout this close encounter, he experienced a strong affective reaction. Bob’s interest in anomalies, aesthetics, UAP, and the human brain was ignited. In 2005, Dr. Gross started working for the US Department of the Interior (DOI). By 2006, Bob was collaborating with NASA on the Astromaterials Research and Exploration Science (ARES) project.
In summary, Dr. Bob Wenzel Gross has been a musician, scientist, researcher, educator, administrator, academic, writer, presenter, and government agent. Dr. Gross has more than 25 years of experience teaching on all levels of instruction. Moreover, he was an adjunct professor at Penn State University, Indiana University of Pennsylvania, New Mexico State University, and South Texas College. During 2021, Dr. Bob began working with the Research Team for The Galileo Project at Harvard University.
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1985, joined the Pennsylvania Association for the Study of the Unexplained (PASU), a research unit that conducted investigations of UFOs and other worthy unexplained phenomena.
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1987, attended National UFO Information Week—a collaborative effort between PASU and the Mutual UFO Network (MUFON) to bring the business of UFO research to the public.
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1987, observed eyewitnesses provide live testimonies about the 1965 Kecksburg UFO incident.
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1989, experienced a personal Close Encounter of the First Kind with an unidentified aerial phenomenon (UAP) which led to conducting subsequent research related to such interactions.
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1997, served on the Cornell University Cinema Advisory Board that premiered the 1997 film, Contact, which was based on a Carl Sagan novel.
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2006-2007, consulted with the Johnson Space Center in Houston, Texas about recruiting Native Americans for NASA’s Astromaterials Research and Exploration Science (ARES) Project.
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2007-2010, collaborated with Spaceport America to promote educational involvement in schools through activities and educational materials aimed at promoting science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) while developing skills needed for Spaceport operations.
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2011, joined MUFON to gain access to their research tools and learn more about how the organization reviewed and studied UFOs.
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2012, presented “The Kecksburg Incident,” at a UFO Conference in Edinburg, Texas.
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2012, provided a lecture entitled: “The Kecksburg Case,” at the Texas A & M International University UFO Conference, Laredo, Texas.
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2013, consulted with Harvard University’s Project Zero and Dr. Howard Gardner related to an independent research study regarding existential intelligence and paranormal activity.
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2013, delivered a science-based presentation, “Using Science to Explain the Unknown,” at the Amazing Skies Science Education Outreach Conference in Pharr, Texas.
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2013, participated in a discussion about developing existential intelligence related to anomalous phenomena as a guest on the Jeff Rense Program, a nationally broadcast radio show.
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2013, assisted with organizing the Out of This World Conference in Edinburg, Texas and presented the lecture: “Science and the Paranormal.”
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2013, published a book chapter: “A Close Encounter of The Lasting Kind.” In Torres, N., Edinburg 2013 Out of This World Conference & Festival Souvenir Program. RoswellBooks.com.
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2013, appeared as the keynote speaker and delivered “Science, the Paranormal, and UFOs” at the MUFON State Fall Symposium, Indianapolis, Indiana.
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2013, conducted a field investigation at the State Theater in South Bend, Indiana.
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2014, developed a fine art lecture series entitled: “Existential Intelligence and the Arts: A Funerary Art Series” as a docent at Notre Dame’s Snite Museum of Art.
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2014, conducted a field investigation at the Willows Weep Funeral Home in Indiana.
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2015, conducted a field investigation at the Whispers Estate in Indiana.
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2015, conducted a field investigation at the Waverly Hills Sanatorium in Kentucky.
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2015, proffered the lecture “Haunted Houses and Filmmaking” at the Mid America Filmmakers (MAF) salon gathering in South Bend, Indiana.
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2016, conducted a field investigation in Randolph County, Indiana and successfully experimented with extended bulb photography techniques that yielded reliable evidence.
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2018, participated in an interview entitled: “The Truth Behind the UFO Phenomenon and Other Mysteries” for a Citizens for Community Media television show.
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2018, delivered a PowerPoint presentation at the 2018 International UFO Congress entitled: “Closing the Kecksburg Case Opened Another Mystery: Results of Recent Research.”
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2018, appointed to the Scientific Coalition for UFOlogy (SCU), an alleged worldwide think-tank that conducted scientific examinations of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).
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2018, wrote an article entitled: An Extraterrestrial Flying Disk Crashed Near Roswell in 1947: Not a UFO. The article was published and trended on The UFO Chronicles.com blog.
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2018, featured guest on Martin Willis Live Shows: PODCAST UFO LIVE STREAM, “06-12-18 Dr. Bob W. Gross, Possible Kecksburg & Roswell Terrestrial Explanations?”
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2018, recruited by Robert Powell of the Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies (SCU) to conduct research as a member of the SCU Project on Shapes and UFO Characteristics Team.
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2018, featured guest on Mack Maloney’s MILITARY X-FILES show about the Roswell mystery.
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2019, featured guest on Dave Scott’s Spaced Out Radio program.
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2019, featured guest on Mack Maloney’s MILITARY X-FILES show discussing “The Rise and Fall of the Roswell UFO Incident.”
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2019, described my 1989 close encounter with a UFO as a featured guest on Mack Maloney’s MILITARY X-FILES broadcast entitled: “Take The Long Way Home.”
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2020, featured guest on Cameron Brauer’s My Alien Life the Podcast show discussing “In Pursuit of Anomalies.”
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2020, described my various encounters with anomalies as a featured guest during the Mack Maloney’s MILITARY X-FILES broadcast entitled: “Shootout at the Pillow Factory.”
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2020, videotaped a discussion regarding MUFON’s Executive Director Rejecting a Suggestion for U.S. Educational Standards Compliance with Jon Kelly on NewsInsideOut.com.
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2020, created a YouTube Video Channel titled: "Explore the Exceptional with Dr. Gross."
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2020, featured guest on the Night Dreams Talk Radio with Gary Anderson show entitled: “Dr. Robert Gross on UFOs.”
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2021, explained the U.S. Government’s recent UAPTF report as a featured guest on the Mack Maloney’s MILITARY X-FILES broadcast entitled: “What Are They Trying To Tell Us?”
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2021, featured guest on the Disclosure News Network with Dave Emmons broadcast entitled: “Introducing Interdisciplinary UAP Education.”
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2021, featured guest on PODCAST UFO LIVE with Martin Willis on “10-12-21, Show #476, Dr. Robert Gross, UAP Education a Potentially Bright Future.”
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2021, began working on vital tasks with the Research Team for The Galileo Project at Harvard University.
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2021, guest on Untold Radio with Joel Sturgis and Doug Hajicek show titled: “Dr. Bob Wenzel Gross—Skilled Research Scientist Who Discusses UFOs and Other Anomalous Phenomena.”
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2022, discussed The Galileo Project at Harvard University as a featured guest on the Mack Maloney’s MILITARY X-FILES broadcast entitled: “If a Nuke Goes Off in Space, Does it make a Noise?”

Thursday Apr 18, 2024
S04 BONUS! Aaron Deese - Hunting Grounds: Dogmen Of The Lakes
Thursday Apr 18, 2024
Thursday Apr 18, 2024
Join Flood and returning guest Aaron Deese to talk about his journey as an author and his new book, Hunting Grounds: Dogmen of the Lakes from Small Town Monsters Publishing!
From the Press Release:
Hunting Grounds: Dogmen of The Lakes examines strange canines in Tennessee and Kentucky.
Chilling new book explores the truth behind the Massacre of the Land Between the Lakes.
Massillon, OH - A new book takes a deep dive into the strange and unsolved phenomena of the Land Between the Lakes. In Aaron Deese’s follow up to The Texas Dogman Triangle, new light is shed on a decades-old tale.
The Land Between the Lakes is the largest inland peninsula in the United States. Situated on the Tennessee/Kentucky border, the national recreational area is home to over 170,000 acres, and is a prime location for campers, hikers and outdoor enthusiasts. It has been since the 1960s, when the federal government displaced thousands of American citizens from what was then known as the Land Between the Rivers.
It is also the home of endless campfire stories, whispered rumors and urban legends. Rumblings of hauntings, mysterious deaths and even Bigfoot sightings abound in the Land Between the Lakes. Another creature - one far darker and more dangerous than the rest - is also said to haunt the shadowed forests and intertwining gulleys. Since the 1980s a frightening saga has circulated by word of mouth, of a horrific massacre at the claws and teeth of what is often described as a werewolf. Or, as some call them, Dogman.
Aaron Deese is joined by Shannon LeGro on a literal trip into the wolf’s den to interview witnesses and researchers - including a man who claims to have witnessed the massacre. Deese and LeGro put boots on the ground in the LBL and visit the location of the massacre first hand, all while attempting to uncover the truth behind this strange and disturbing tale.
Featuring interviews not previously available elsewhere and commentary by a battery of researchers, Hunting Grounds: Dogmen of The Lakes examines the “Massacre of the Land Between the Lakes” like never before, while tracing the history and legacy of the werewolf from its ancient roots to modern day sightings around the world. Hunting Grounds is a companion to the forthcoming documentary Dogman Territory: Werewolves in the Land Between the Lakes, slated for release in 2024.
Author: Aaron is a San Antonio, Texas based author and content producer with Small Town Monsters. When he’s not chasing werewolves he enjoys books, cartoons, video games, podcasting and nunchucks. Aaron lives with his wife Sara (with whom he hosts the podcast Hey Strangeness) and son Ezra along with way too many cats near the Alamo.
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Hunting Grounds: Dogmen of The Lakes by Aaron Deese; Small Town Monsters Publishing; Nonfiction; Adventure /History/Folklore/ Cryptozoology/Paranormal; paperback and digital formats; Availability: Amazon.com and smalltownmonsters.com
Preorder April 9th, 2024 on amazon and smalltownmonsters.com , release date April 23rd, 2024 on amazon and smalltownmonsters.com
AARON DEESE
https://www.heystrangeness.com/
SMALL TOWN MONSTERS
https://www.smalltownmonsters.com/
EX V PLANIS
https://foldsandfloods.bandcamp.com
GNOOOOOOMES!!!!
https://drive.google.com/file/d/195HxoExR94QYOsizgPmJNnWqgE1AuuRi/view?usp=sharing

Thursday Apr 11, 2024
S04E03 The Uinta Basin Part 3: Pyromancy and Perplexing Aerial Phenomena
Thursday Apr 11, 2024
Thursday Apr 11, 2024
Join your host Flood and the Ex V Planis field team as we continue our discussion about our experiences in Utah's Uinta Basin.
Jill, Meg, Todd and Lisa return to talk about random number generators, elementals, consciousness experiments, UFO's, and other instances of high strangeness in the desert.
EX V PLANIS
https://foldsandfloods.bandcamp.com
UFO VALLEY CAMPGROUND

Thursday Mar 21, 2024
S04 Bonus: Richard Hatem's Paranormal Bookshelf
Thursday Mar 21, 2024
Thursday Mar 21, 2024
Join your host Flood and special returning guest Rich Hatem for a hint of what's to come on his new podcast: Richard Hatem's Paranormal Bookshelf!
Rich offers some insight on what to expect in this series and how each book he discusses has a deeper personal meaning to him.
Also, plenty of the typical chaotic humor that ensues when we get to talking. Be sure to check out the links below!
RICHARD HATEM
https://www.richardhatemsparanormalbookshelf.com/
EX V PLANIS

Wednesday Mar 20, 2024
S04E02 Fear And Loathing In Uinta Basin
Wednesday Mar 20, 2024
Wednesday Mar 20, 2024
S04E02 Fear And Loathing In Uinta Basin
Tonight, I am pleased to bring back Ex V Planis field team regulars, Jill, Megan, Lisa and Todd to dip our collective toes into one of the strangest stretches of days I've ever had: our multi-day investigation and interaction with the one and only Uinta Basin, home of the infamous Skinwalker Ranch, but...let me be abundantly clear here:
If you think the RANCH is weird, you ain't seen nothin' yet! The phenomenon is not anchored to that shitty property.
It...is....everywhere.
Join us tonight as we discuss the oddities observed over the first 36 hours of our time on location in the Uinta Basin! The only thing I can promise: it is going to get weirder from here.
EX V PLANIS
https://foldsandfloods.bandcamp.com
SMALL TOWN MONSTERS
https://www.smalltownmonsters.com/

Saturday Mar 09, 2024
S04 BONUS Interview with Courtney Swihart and Aaron Deese of Small Town Monsters
Saturday Mar 09, 2024
Saturday Mar 09, 2024
Join your host Flood with special guests Courtney Swihart and Aaron Deese from the Small Town Monsters crew (as well as the Hey Strangeness podcast) to hear about all the upcoming content from your favorite independent production company!
SMALL TOWN MONSTERS
https://www.smalltownmonsters.com/
EX V PLANIS

Friday Mar 01, 2024
S0E01 The Uinta Basin, Part 1: History, Geology, and Folklore
Friday Mar 01, 2024
Friday Mar 01, 2024
S04E01 The Uinta Basin, Part 1
Welcome back to Ex V Planis for season 4 of exploring the unexplained!
Tonight, we kick off our series on Utah’s Uinta Basin, home of the infamous Skinwalker Ranch. But make no mistake friends and fiends, this is NOT a series on the ranch, although it comes into play a few times. No, tonight’s installment is a brief overview of the history of the land, and the populations that inhabit it, both ancient and modern.
We’ll discuss the geology, the people, and the centuries of high-strangeness that inspired the Ex V Planis field team to investigate in person in July of 2023. But first, let’s get the lay of this strange land…
EX V PLANIS
https://foldsandfloods.bandcamp.com
SOURCES
https://science.howstuffworks.com/science-vs-myth/strange-creatures/skinwalker.htm
https://geology.utah.gov/map-pub/survey-notes/uinta-basin-produced-water/
https://www.uintahbasintah.org/localhistory.htm
SMALL TOWN MONSTERS

Thursday Jan 11, 2024
S03E18 The Village Tarot Witch, Karly Latham
Thursday Jan 11, 2024
Thursday Jan 11, 2024
Tonight I am pleased to welcome Karly Latham, AKA The Village Tarot Witch, to the Black Lodge for a conversation about the paranormal, divination, and our connection to the stranger sides of our reality.
Karly is a gifted tarot reader, medium, author, and fellow podcast host through her new production called "Death Becomes Us" (link available below), and has been active in the paranormal community for quite some time now.
So pull a few cards, pour yourself a beverage, and join us for an intimate conversation about a variety of subjects ranging from the paranormal to mental health.
ALL THINGS KARLY
Instagram: https://instagram.com/karly.latham?utm_source=qr
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@karly.latham?_t=8i8b9AmoedS&_r=1
Death Becomes Us: https://deathbecomesus.emotionalpictures.com/
Dark Village: https://darkvillagepublications.substack.com/
ALL THINGS EX V PLANIS
ALL THINGS FOLDS AND FLOODS

Friday Dec 22, 2023
S03E17 The Ex V Planis 2023 Winter Solstice Party!
Friday Dec 22, 2023
Friday Dec 22, 2023
Join your host Flood and Ex V Planis field team members Jill, Alejandro and (a belated) Meg as well as special guests Krystal Einarsson and Corrine Labita for a year end recap, off the rails tangents, and other shenanigans!
Audio version will be released on 12/22!
ALL THINGS EX V PLANIS
ALL THINGS FOLDS AND FLOODS
https://foldsandfloods.bandcamp.com
https://linktr.ee/foldsandfloods
WITCH WAY FROM HERE
https://www.instagram.com/witch.way.from.here/
https://open.spotify.com/show/3e3ncg3UmqbWK3T5uz69Sh?si=2d84d23a0429453f
EMPOWERED WITH KRYSTAL E
https://www.thekrystaleinarsson.com/
https://www.instagram.com/krystal_the_kween/
https://www.instagram.com/empoweredwithkrystale/
https://open.spotify.com/show/5fgYMUxI01Eewbk0lNBunC?si=2cd5f434bd43455f
https://open.spotify.com/show/4fY7WnWlq0fNIWDEb3hHdG?si=39be7afed78b4f35
LEFTOVER STARDUST (Alejandro)
https://www.leftoverstardust.com/